Homyguy Ze (1:01:19 AM): yo
DarthMeckju (1:01:22 AM): Hey
Homyguy Ze wants to directly connect (1:01:23 AM).
Homyguy Ze is now directly connected (1:01:25 AM).
Homyguy Ze (1:01:38 AM):
Homyguy Ze (1:01:50 AM): still workin' on it
DarthMeckju (1:04:13 AM): Heh, good stuff!
DarthMeckju (1:04:21 AM): Kinda' resembles the nuclear symbol
Homyguy Ze (1:04:30 AM): hmm, sorta
Homyguy Ze (1:04:41 AM): I was going to make the centerpiece a face or something like that
Homyguy Ze (1:04:43 AM): to represent HMCs
Homyguy Ze (1:04:51 AM): looked kinda corny though
DarthMeckju (1:04:52 AM): Ah, good stuff
DarthMeckju (1:05:08 AM): I can toy with it I guess, maybe an outline of toad's head, heh
Homyguy Ze (1:05:22 AM): heheheh
Homyguy Ze (1:46:27 AM): done with the paper and all that?

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Auto response from Homyguy Ze (1:46:27 AM): What if they made a cereal that was called Bubonic Flakes. How would they possibly advertise that stuff so that kids would be dying for it? ....EXCUSE MY PUN. But the toy could be a little water-squirting needle!

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Homyguy Ze (1:46:40 AM): hwer hwer
Homyguy Ze (1:46:48 AM): my question is who would be the mascot
DarthMeckju (1:47:07 AM): If it were CocoaAIDS, then Magic Johnson all the way!
Homyguy Ze (1:47:21 AM): hahaha
Homyguy Ze (1:47:24 AM): oh man, that's dark
Homyguy Ze (1:47:34 AM): DOUBLE PUN
DarthMeckju (1:47:37 AM): Why's it gotta be a race issue?!?
Homyguy Ze (1:47:37 AM): hwerhhwerhwerh
DarthMeckju (1:47:40 AM): Aww got me there
Homyguy Ze (1:48:07 AM): been 3dmming or still working on that paper?
DarthMeckju (1:49:29 AM): This stupid paper has gone... HOW many hours passed it's limit??
DarthMeckju (1:49:33 AM): Geeze, it's wearing me otu
Homyguy Ze (1:50:17 AM): urgh
Homyguy Ze (1:50:18 AM): that sucks
DarthMeckju (2:09:01 AM): Woo
DarthMeckju (2:09:04 AM): It'S PRINTING!!!!111
Homyguy Ze (2:09:36 AM): AWESOME
DarthMeckju (2:09:47 AM): So is that Act 1 ready to send?
Homyguy Ze (2:09:49 AM): (oneoneone)
DarthMeckju (2:09:55 AM): heh heh
Homyguy Ze (2:10:04 AM): yeah, gotta clip the rest of Redux off of it and stuff real quick
Homyguy Ze (2:10:15 AM): I'll have to e-mail it, it's big
DarthMeckju (2:10:29 AM): Oh, nut bunnies
DarthMeckju (2:10:32 AM): How big is big?
Homyguy Ze (2:12:13 AM): hang on, trying a zip
Homyguy Ze (2:13:10 AM): 1.8MB
Homyguy Ze (2:13:25 AM): amazing compression, .3mm file is 8.6MB
DarthMeckju (2:13:35 AM): Indeed, they compress really well
DarthMeckju (2:13:45 AM): meckju@pikios.com
Homyguy Ze (2:15:11 AM): sent
DarthMeckju (2:15:16 AM): ARG, I downloaded winrar on kazaa, but it doesn't work ;__;
DarthMeckju (2:15:23 AM): Holy poop, man I need to go to a college
Homyguy Ze (2:15:24 AM): arg indeed
Homyguy Ze (2:15:29 AM): heheheh
Homyguy Ze (2:15:32 AM): indeed!
Homyguy Ze (2:15:40 AM): although my connection back home is pretty good too
Homyguy Ze (2:15:46 AM): (this one is better though)
DarthMeckju (2:15:54 AM): I... I can't listen to that!
Homyguy Ze (2:16:12 AM): :-)
Homyguy Ze (2:16:25 AM): I'm an evil bastard
DarthMeckju (2:16:32 AM): Haha, I think that's about all that my e-mail can taek
DarthMeckju (2:16:34 AM): take
DarthMeckju (2:16:48 AM):
Homyguy Ze (2:17:10 AM): heheheh
Homyguy Ze (2:17:29 AM): I can bug Rubin about increasing the 3dmm.us/upload size limit if necessary
Homyguy Ze (2:17:38 AM): I'm sure it will be by the end
DarthMeckju (2:18:01 AM): Yeah, actually, I might just have my own space by then
Homyguy Ze (2:18:21 AM): ooh, even better
DarthMeckju (2:18:26 AM): http://www.3dmm.com/bboard/showthread.php?s=34728b8915efd304144c2be80cb0a45d&threadid=44118
Homyguy Ze (2:19:29 AM): Bronze would do the job
DarthMeckju (2:19:36 AM): Indeeeeed
DarthMeckju (2:19:51 AM): But, I was expecting something like 5 bucks a year... not a month!
Homyguy Ze (2:20:25 AM): ahhh, yeah.
Homyguy Ze (2:20:29 AM): it's expensive nowadays
DarthMeckju (2:20:37 AM): I was thinking... Maybe it's about time I make 3dmm worth my while
Homyguy Ze (2:20:39 AM): there's always some catch when it's cheap
Homyguy Ze (2:20:54 AM): HOW SO, MR. MECKES?
DarthMeckju (2:21:20 AM): Starting with Ninja Gaiden, I would release it from my page through paypal donations, 2 months before I release it to the public. That way any really dedicated fans can kinda... help me out!
Homyguy Ze (2:21:33 AM): hahah, that would be awesome!
Homyguy Ze (2:21:48 AM): of course - as soon as someone has the .3mm file, they might upload it somewhere
Homyguy Ze (2:22:36 AM): it would be cool if there was a script to force the .3mm file to run in a browser or something like that
Homyguy Ze (2:22:40 AM): downloading disabled
Homyguy Ze (2:22:49 AM): you could even buffer it!
DarthMeckju (2:22:56 AM): Nah, I was thinking about that, and I'm cool with it
DarthMeckju (2:23:12 AM): I know that I'd never pay for a 3d movie, but some fans out there would pay just to support the directors, right?
Homyguy Ze (2:23:20 AM): yeah, definitely
DarthMeckju (2:23:21 AM): Like how a lot of people want to paypal goat
DarthMeckju (2:23:51 AM): You think anyone would actually do it?
Homyguy Ze (2:24:02 AM): I would
DarthMeckju (2:24:33 AM): ha ha, awesome. Maybe now I'll have some real incentive to work on my flicks
Homyguy Ze (2:24:58 AM): hmmm, if you could host other people's stuff, maybe you could set up a paypal and make the clips/finished movie a bonus for donators
Homyguy Ze (2:25:04 AM): working kind of on an honor system
DarthMeckju (2:25:56 AM): Hmm, that could work
DarthMeckju (2:25:59 AM): Ah, I got it
DarthMeckju (2:26:01 AM): I'd have membership
Homyguy Ze (2:26:07 AM): ahh, yeah
Homyguy Ze (2:26:08 AM): of course
DarthMeckju (2:26:17 AM): And those who donate get to jump in, and use my uploader, see my works, and whatever else
DarthMeckju (2:26:33 AM): Ballard's already made something like that once, I could get him on the job for this as well!
Homyguy Ze (2:26:51 AM): I heard rumors of a Goro/Ballard site
DarthMeckju (2:27:01 AM): Ah, indeed
DarthMeckju (2:27:11 AM): There's a disgusting lack of competition between sites these days
Homyguy Ze (2:27:34 AM): agreed
DarthMeckju (2:27:36 AM): So now's the best time to jump in if you want the best chance at becoming #1
Homyguy Ze (2:27:43 AM): more sites = more motivation
Homyguy Ze (2:27:44 AM): heheh, yeah
Homyguy Ze (2:28:12 AM): I started a 3dmm site entirely for Vlarion, complete with character bios, animations, a full glossary, plot synopsis, secrets, all kinds of stuff
Homyguy Ze (2:28:21 AM): got about half done and forgot about it
DarthMeckju (2:28:27 AM): Heh heh
Homyguy Ze (2:28:28 AM): I'll get it off the ground again sooner or later
Homyguy Ze (2:29:23 AM): got the file yet?
DarthMeckju (2:29:41 AM): Yup!
DarthMeckju (2:29:45 AM): Lemme see
DarthMeckju (2:34:13 AM): Whoa, that was awesome!
DarthMeckju (2:34:32 AM): Did I send you that whole track, or did you find it on your own?
Homyguy Ze (2:35:08 AM): which track was that?
DarthMeckju (2:35:30 AM): Track 14, the Excalibur song
DarthMeckju (2:35:36 AM): I didn't think I put the whole thing in there
Homyguy Ze (2:35:49 AM): I dunno, I got it from the original clip you sent me way back when
Homyguy Ze (2:35:57 AM): when you were asking if I wanted to join the project
DarthMeckju (2:36:16 AM): ha, that's funny... I must've figured that and switched the files so that I wouldn't have to send it again later...
Homyguy Ze (2:36:23 AM): heheh
DarthMeckju (2:36:24 AM): Just wondering because I've never heard it go that far before
DarthMeckju (2:37:02 AM): And I used to cut it so that it saved size. Ah, but the cues... they were marvelous!
Homyguy Ze (2:37:12 AM): indeed!
Homyguy Ze (2:37:18 AM): most were accidental, even
DarthMeckju (2:37:19 AM): Simply marvelous, I couldn't believe that that was all by chance... was it?
DarthMeckju (2:37:28 AM): Ah, very cool
Homyguy Ze (2:37:31 AM): pretty much all of it
Homyguy Ze (2:37:49 AM): I wasn't thinking much about the cues when I cut it together....I figured we could go back and edit as needed in post production
Homyguy Ze (2:37:51 AM): but somehow it all fit
DarthMeckju (2:37:57 AM): Heh, yeah that's how my syncs end up synced most of the time
Homyguy Ze (2:38:18 AM): you have to open the scene organizer for it to work perfectly though, but most people do that anyway
Homyguy Ze (2:38:24 AM): I think the theater pre-caches everything too
DarthMeckju (2:38:28 AM): Wait.. does that really help?
DarthMeckju (2:38:36 AM): Because I've never noticed a difference
DarthMeckju (2:38:40 AM): Well, back on my 98 at least
Homyguy Ze (2:38:53 AM): I've found it to help when scenes didn't load immediately
DarthMeckju (2:38:55 AM): Would a DD-esque pre-chaching work better?
Homyguy Ze (2:39:08 AM): I'm not sure
Homyguy Ze (2:39:11 AM): we could do both
DarthMeckju (2:39:22 AM): Yeah, hide them in the background of the space bit
Homyguy Ze (2:39:27 AM): heheh
Homyguy Ze (2:39:34 AM): or just have a scene at the beginning
DarthMeckju (2:39:38 AM): Oh, and I do need to add an Untitled Reels logo to the beginning as well
Homyguy Ze (2:39:50 AM): alrighty, cool
DarthMeckju (2:40:05 AM): Because, well, I'm not supposed to be working under GI on this project, but hey... that bit is already animated, so we'll keep it
Homyguy Ze (2:40:42 AM): oh, really?
Homyguy Ze (2:40:49 AM): alright, hmmm
Homyguy Ze (2:40:53 AM): I could redo the first part of it if necessary
DarthMeckju (2:41:39 AM): Nah, no reason to
DarthMeckju (2:41:48 AM): Don't worry about it
DarthMeckju (2:42:00 AM): So yeah, what all scenes should I add?
DarthMeckju (2:42:08 AM): The whole Lock N Toad part that's there I should replace
DarthMeckju (2:42:15 AM): Into the same sized scenes
Homyguy Ze (2:42:21 AM): The first newsroom scene needs to be fixed up
DarthMeckju (2:42:31 AM): Yeah, but I already gave up on that once, heh
Homyguy Ze (2:42:46 AM): heheh, okay
Homyguy Ze (2:43:00 AM): there's a lot of weird looking pieces lying around, I wasn't sure what you were going for
Homyguy Ze (2:43:12 AM): heh, apparently you weren't either, huh?
DarthMeckju (2:43:33 AM): Yeah, pretty much
DarthMeckju (2:43:46 AM): I tried to cover as much as I could with... desk-ish things
DarthMeckju (2:43:57 AM): And then jimmy it from there with a few screens in the background
Homyguy Ze (2:44:38 AM): yeah
Homyguy Ze (2:44:41 AM): I'll fix it up then
Homyguy Ze (2:45:05 AM): is there anything you want to do to the jacuzzi scene?
DarthMeckju (2:45:38 AM): Ha ha, looks so
Homyguy Ze (2:45:40 AM): just to touch it up a bit, more detailed explosion when the meteor hits the window etc.
Homyguy Ze (2:45:48 AM): heheh
DarthMeckju (2:45:48 AM): I forgot it wasn't quite done
DarthMeckju (2:46:00 AM): Just add a TV to the right, maybe a nice carpet piece on the ground
Homyguy Ze (2:46:07 AM): the guide piece you used could make a good mini-fridge
DarthMeckju (2:46:08 AM): Not a big focus area
Homyguy Ze (2:46:10 AM): yeah
DarthMeckju (2:46:32 AM): Haha, do you see how messed up that angle is?
Homyguy Ze (2:46:37 AM): when you cut together the Lock N Toad sequence, keep the same number of frames if possible
DarthMeckju (2:46:38 AM): Oh man.. that is a hideous job I did
Homyguy Ze (2:46:42 AM): heheheh
Homyguy Ze (2:46:46 AM): it's not THAT bad
Homyguy Ze (2:46:55 AM): the meteor hitting the window doesn't totally work though
DarthMeckju (2:47:13 AM): Well, actually it hit outside the wnidow
DarthMeckju (2:47:20 AM): *Window
DarthMeckju (2:47:27 AM): But the dude fell through it
DarthMeckju (2:47:34 AM): At least, that's what I was going for
Homyguy Ze (2:48:04 AM): it sorta works, actually
DarthMeckju (2:48:35 AM): ...There's something in the far right of the screen, like half way through...
DarthMeckju (2:48:44 AM): A blue sphere or something just sittin there
DarthMeckju (2:49:03 AM): Ahh, that was my guide object for the bubbles
Homyguy Ze (2:49:54 AM): heheh, I caught that
Homyguy Ze (2:50:24 AM): you think the sanctuary angles work?
DarthMeckju (2:51:15 AM): Definitely!
Homyguy Ze (2:51:28 AM): they look kind of jarring, but maybe that's kind of the idea
DarthMeckju (2:51:36 AM): Heh, the sudden burst of color was different
DarthMeckju (2:51:57 AM): The blue windows, quite contrasty. It's good for symbolism
Homyguy Ze (2:52:15 AM): heheh, yeah
Homyguy Ze (2:52:26 AM): I used kind of a weird angle, too
Homyguy Ze (2:52:37 AM): I think a lot of the inner sanctuary shots should do that
Homyguy Ze (2:52:52 AM): with the whole scene looking a little off-kilter
DarthMeckju (2:52:55 AM): So scene 29 is an overhead shot half way through?
Homyguy Ze (2:53:02 AM): yeah
Homyguy Ze (2:53:13 AM): I didn't animate enough to really get the effect of the sanctuary looming over you
Homyguy Ze (2:53:17 AM): and it wasn't really big enough
DarthMeckju (2:53:30 AM): Ah, good thinking
Homyguy Ze (2:53:34 AM): so I followed through with a similar zoom to an overhead shot
DarthMeckju (2:53:54 AM): So, are there any scenes that don't exist there which you want to add in?
DarthMeckju (2:53:57 AM): In act I that is
Homyguy Ze (2:54:06 AM): hmmm....
Homyguy Ze (2:54:14 AM): you said you wanted one of the birds and the cell in this act, right?
DarthMeckju (2:54:31 AM): Yeah, but that would sacrifice our precious syncing
Homyguy Ze (2:54:53 AM): how well does it sync after the Vlarion stuff begins? I haven't actually seen that with the music yet
DarthMeckju (2:55:05 AM): That's where it gets best!
Homyguy Ze (2:55:13 AM): really? hang on, let me check it out
Homyguy Ze (2:56:50 AM): weird
DarthMeckju (2:56:50 AM): Aww what the hay, it just randomly closed on me..
Homyguy Ze (2:56:54 AM): me too
Homyguy Ze (2:56:57 AM): Mastrorar shot?
DarthMeckju (2:57:02 AM): Yeah
Homyguy Ze (2:57:08 AM): crap
Homyguy Ze (2:57:12 AM): I've had that happen before, too
DarthMeckju (2:57:45 AM): It was scene 18, around frame 65
Homyguy Ze (2:57:51 AM): is that the last frame?
DarthMeckju (2:57:53 AM): ...But it didn't do anything the first time through
DarthMeckju (2:57:54 AM): No
DarthMeckju (2:58:01 AM): Wait, yeah
Homyguy Ze (2:58:01 AM): it quit out on the last one for me
DarthMeckju (2:58:08 AM): It might've been the last one
Homyguy Ze (2:58:14 AM): we could try cutting the last frame of the shot, as much as I hate to do that
Homyguy Ze (2:58:27 AM): or split the scene in two
DarthMeckju (2:58:35 AM): Nothing hasty now, try watching again
Homyguy Ze (2:58:37 AM): alternately, I have earlier versions of the shot that I can rework if it becomes a serious problem
Homyguy Ze (2:58:40 AM): yeah
Homyguy Ze (2:58:57 AM): try it from the very beginning
Homyguy Ze (3:03:08 AM): worked fine this time!
DarthMeckju (3:03:29 AM): Me too!
Homyguy Ze (3:03:32 AM): excellent
Homyguy Ze (3:03:42 AM): music syncs really well
Homyguy Ze (3:03:54 AM): but I have a neat idea for the end of the Vlarion sequence
Homyguy Ze (3:04:36 AM): we could cut to another driving shot, which leads into seeing the cell and bird
DarthMeckju (3:04:40 AM): Wowsers, I just listened to the whole Track 14 song
DarthMeckju (3:04:46 AM): Oh, do go on
Homyguy Ze (3:05:03 AM): as in, your car zooms by them on the highway, where they aren't revealed until you've driven by, showing both plot threads in the same shot
DarthMeckju (3:05:25 AM): Ah, very good!
Homyguy Ze (3:05:37 AM): both you and the HMCs are absorbed in what you're doing, so we see two things pass each other without realizing the significance of what just happened
Homyguy Ze (3:05:51 AM): without the characters realizing, it, I mean
DarthMeckju (3:05:57 AM): Yes, yes
Homyguy Ze (3:06:01 AM): the irony will not be lost on the audience
DarthMeckju (3:06:13 AM): Heh
Homyguy Ze (3:06:50 AM): that would lead into the cell/bird sequence you were talking about while reminding everyone that you're still driving somewhere
DarthMeckju (3:07:22 AM): Okay, let's get this down now, shot by shot
DarthMeckju (3:07:28 AM): That way I can get it finished tommorrow
Homyguy Ze (3:07:41 AM): alright
DarthMeckju (3:08:02 AM): So I would first cut to a scene with Lock N Toad just staring eachother down, really
Homyguy Ze (3:08:22 AM): heheh, showdown style
DarthMeckju (3:08:23 AM): Both focused on the other completely, as two meteorites come by
Homyguy Ze (3:08:41 AM): it would be great if they were facing each other off as if they were about to do a quickdraw
DarthMeckju (3:09:19 AM): Heh heh, I dunno what I can do about that
Homyguy Ze (3:09:31 AM): oh, yeah, I know, I'm just throwing out ideas
DarthMeckju (3:09:45 AM): But yeah, two meteors whiz by. Then a big exposion's heard
DarthMeckju (3:10:06 AM): And the Default Dungeon behind them is being incinerated, heh
DarthMeckju (3:10:23 AM): Reaction shot, they look at eachother, and take to the hills, heh
Homyguy Ze (3:10:35 AM): awesome
DarthMeckju (3:11:36 AM): So how does the cell come into play?
Homyguy Ze (3:11:36 AM): heh, I just had a great mental image of Toad from the front, glaring down Lock, watching a meteor fall in the background, and then seeing his eyes open wide when it hits, as if realizing, "Something really major just happened behind me."
Homyguy Ze (3:11:54 AM): hmm....let me see....
DarthMeckju (3:11:57 AM): Haha, I could do that
Homyguy Ze (3:12:05 AM): excellent!
Homyguy Ze (3:12:20 AM): the idea we came up with yesterday was having the bird save the cell, right?
DarthMeckju (3:12:27 AM): Yeah
DarthMeckju (3:12:45 AM): Okay, how's this... The Lock N Toad stuff takes place, THEN we have the car drive by
DarthMeckju (3:13:00 AM): Wait.. new thoughts
Homyguy Ze (3:13:16 AM): that would screw up the timing we have right now
DarthMeckju (3:13:18 AM): Lemme compile real quick
Homyguy Ze (3:13:22 AM): heh, okay
DarthMeckju (3:14:22 AM): Okay, car drives by, then we see the cell across from it, looking quite distressed
DarthMeckju (3:15:20 AM): It inches into the road a bit, then, SWOOP, the bird snatches him up, and as it flies higher (Overhead shot) we see an ambulence drive underneith them
DarthMeckju (3:15:28 AM): (woulda' gooshed the cell)
Homyguy Ze (3:15:29 AM): hahah, awesome
Homyguy Ze (3:15:35 AM): that cell keeps having to get saved
DarthMeckju (3:15:50 AM): Heh, he'll return the favor in the end
Homyguy Ze (3:15:54 AM): awesome
DarthMeckju (3:16:24 AM): But yeah, so now they are flying through the air. If we want, we can cut the music off, and put dialogue in
DarthMeckju (3:16:31 AM): Explain what is happening through the bird
Homyguy Ze (3:16:49 AM): exposition = bad!
Homyguy Ze (3:16:55 AM): we want to avoid that at all costs
Homyguy Ze (3:17:14 AM): the beauty of this movie so far has been that the story is so well told without a single line of dialogue
DarthMeckju (3:17:32 AM): "Eh mate, watch yourself next time you're on a road, a'ight?! blah blah gotta get to the sanctuary blah blah" then cue the music again, so it stays in sync with what we already have down
DarthMeckju (3:17:36 AM): Ah, you're right..
Homyguy Ze (3:17:58 AM): I mean, it would work, but I think viewers would get so much more out of it with just the context of previous and later scenes
DarthMeckju (3:18:28 AM): Heh, I suffer from stupid viewer syndrome, I think. We should just assume that they'll all be able to catch on
Homyguy Ze (3:18:37 AM): heheh, yeah
Homyguy Ze (3:19:07 AM): while still making sure that the things viewers need to pick up are established cinematically throughout the movie
Homyguy Ze (3:19:14 AM): something we've done a very good job of so far, I think
DarthMeckju (3:19:26 AM): This'll put a bit more work on my shoulders, but it's not impossible. I will just have to have a very precise reaction shot between the two as he is flying from the road, if done right it'll give the message
Homyguy Ze (3:19:51 AM): yeah, that sounds great
DarthMeckju (3:19:52 AM): Which is god
DarthMeckju (3:19:54 AM): *good
Homyguy Ze (3:19:56 AM): hwer hwer
Homyguy Ze (3:20:28 AM): hmm....should we have the cell and bird crash land?
Homyguy Ze (3:20:34 AM): they're seperated again in Act II
Homyguy Ze (3:21:07 AM): I can see a comical shot of the bird covered in ash with spirals for eyes, smoke rising from his body
Homyguy Ze (3:21:20 AM): maybe a meteor hits or singes them or something
DarthMeckju (3:21:27 AM): Ha ha, I've got it!
Homyguy Ze (3:21:31 AM): that would lead into Toad finding them later
DarthMeckju (3:21:58 AM): As I do the reaction shot of them flying away, I'll cut to the bird winking at him (A reaction shot I guess) and then just getting wiped off the screen
DarthMeckju (3:22:13 AM): And the cell falls from sight, while he remains singed in the air, like you said
Homyguy Ze (3:22:28 AM): hahaha, awesome
Homyguy Ze (3:22:45 AM): the second act could even begin with the cell waking up, looking around, and bouncing along with a worried expression
DarthMeckju (3:22:48 AM): Now, depending on the order of scenes, I can then have the cell landing behind Lock N Toad to connect those two
Homyguy Ze (3:22:55 AM): leading directly into the scene where the Demon appears
Homyguy Ze (3:23:10 AM): I don't think it's really necessary; they're all heading in the same direction
DarthMeckju (3:23:18 AM): Ah, good stuff... the grass would be green when he conks out
Homyguy Ze (3:23:24 AM): ahhh, yeah!
DarthMeckju (3:23:26 AM): but all brown like it is now when he wakes
Homyguy Ze (3:23:35 AM): great stuff
DarthMeckju (3:24:10 AM): But yeah, back to act one
Homyguy Ze (3:24:16 AM): heh, yeah
DarthMeckju (3:24:19 AM): So the lock n toad scenes fall before or after the cell ones?
Homyguy Ze (3:24:56 AM): before; the original ones you worked together and a later one that I can do real quick, just recapping that they're still in the story
Homyguy Ze (3:25:02 AM): right after the Vlarion sequence and before the cell one
Homyguy Ze (3:25:31 AM): after the cell one ends, we cut to you arriving at the sanctuary
DarthMeckju (3:25:39 AM): Ah, good good
Homyguy Ze (3:26:49 AM): man, I wish the original gray texture was included in the expansion pack
Homyguy Ze (3:27:07 AM): I need it for this scene I've already constructed, so I have to animate a brand new piece
DarthMeckju (3:27:28 AM): So tommorrow, just to re-iterate for the mentally impared (Myself), the scenes I'll need to finish tommorrow are: Lock N Toad staredown, meteor blowing up default dungeon, LnT scampering off, cell creeping onto road, bird saving him, reaction shot of the two, meteor singe, and that's that
DarthMeckju (3:27:34 AM): Ha ha, yeah man, that'd be useful
DarthMeckju (3:27:39 AM): I could've used it a few times today
Homyguy Ze (3:27:47 AM): heheh
Homyguy Ze (3:28:01 AM): and yeah, that's pretty much that!
DarthMeckju (3:28:28 AM): Alrighty then, I will definitely give it a good shot tommorrow
Homyguy Ze (3:28:52 AM): I have to: clean up some of the earlier 'animatic' stuff, finish the Vlarion sequence and do the second Lock N Toad sequence, and finish the sanctuary stuff at the end
DarthMeckju (3:29:01 AM): I can't stay up late that night, so might have to move into Friday as well, but on Friday I want to focus on your squirrel scenes and other areas of touching up in Act 1
Homyguy Ze (3:29:11 AM): yeah, definitely
Homyguy Ze (3:29:25 AM): if we can finish all of this stuff tonight/tomorrow, we'll be well ahead of schedule
Homyguy Ze (3:29:33 AM): with Friday as the day for touch-up
Homyguy Ze (3:29:38 AM): and Act I will be finished!
DarthMeckju (3:29:57 AM): Do you remember the schedule?
DarthMeckju (3:30:00 AM): I forget... :-(
DarthMeckju (3:30:11 AM): I think due date for act 1 was Monday though
Homyguy Ze (3:30:17 AM): Sunday
DarthMeckju (3:30:28 AM): Ah, still good
DarthMeckju (3:30:36 AM): Then Monday, then Tuesday, right?
Homyguy Ze (3:30:48 AM): Estimated deadline for finishing Redux: December 25.
Deadline for preliminary direction and animation: December 23
Deadline for Act 1 Completion: Sunday, December 14
Deadline for Act 2 Completion: Friday, December 19
Deadline for Act 3 Completion: Tuesday, December 23
Estimated date for Sound Effects/Music: Wednesday, December 24
DarthMeckju (3:31:06 AM): Ohh... hmm
DarthMeckju (3:31:17 AM): Yeah, Act 2 is really gonna need the extra days
Homyguy Ze (3:31:22 AM): yes
Homyguy Ze (3:31:27 AM): most complicated act so far
Homyguy Ze (3:31:45 AM): I think we might have to make II and III simultaneously
Homyguy Ze (3:31:52 AM): (uh oh, just had a bad Matrix flashback)
DarthMeckju (3:32:10 AM): Oh yes, if you get a chance, go into 3dmm and listen to Track 14 in the wav toolbar
Homyguy Ze (3:32:22 AM): heh, alright
DarthMeckju (3:33:04 AM): After the part where it stops currently (in the sanctuary scene), there's another 30 seconds or so of that. If you sense any cues, we might be able to fit additional scenes in
DarthMeckju (3:33:24 AM): Buuuuut, after that, it gets real quiet....Very atmospheric, just in a different way than the rest
DarthMeckju (3:33:35 AM): It would make for a PERFECT "Oh shoot, Goro's dead" scene
DarthMeckju (3:33:50 AM): And then, soon after that, a rebellion of the HMCs against the SuperDemon who killed me
DarthMeckju (3:34:00 AM): And that's where Track 14 stopped downloading, heh
Homyguy Ze (3:34:01 AM): heheh, awesome
Homyguy Ze (3:34:17 AM): we can use Goldwave to edit the cues to fit our animation if necessary
DarthMeckju (3:34:17 AM): Seriously, that's exactally what popped right into my head as I listened to it, it'd work great
Homyguy Ze (3:34:42 AM): do you want to use it for the entire third act or just the finale?
DarthMeckju (3:34:45 AM): BTW---The act 1 scenes I need to make, do they all have to fit within the current LNT frame amount?
DarthMeckju (3:34:50 AM): Just the finale
Homyguy Ze (3:34:59 AM): because I have an awesome FF8 theme we can use for the battle itself
DarthMeckju (3:35:08 AM): Unless there's more to the track yet, I have to get the whole thing from Z-man
Homyguy Ze (3:35:11 AM): just the LNT staredown scene
DarthMeckju (3:35:22 AM): Yeah, we should be able to fit the FF8 song in no prob
DarthMeckju (3:35:29 AM): Okay, good
DarthMeckju (3:35:33 AM): With the explosion and all?
Homyguy Ze (3:35:39 AM): yeah
Homyguy Ze (3:35:44 AM): short and sweet, like the original
DarthMeckju (3:35:57 AM): Then I'd better save this chat, because I'm a dooface
DarthMeckju (3:36:13 AM): There
Homyguy Ze (3:36:16 AM): hwerhwerhwer
DarthMeckju (3:36:25 AM): well, now I actually have to go for the night...
Homyguy Ze (3:36:32 AM): I still have IMs from a few days ago in this window
Homyguy Ze (3:36:44 AM): darthmeckju (12:43:48 PM): So...What do you call a fish with no eyes?
darthmeckju (12:44:57 PM): FSH!!!11
Homyguy Ze (3:36:50 AM): that's how far it goes back for me
Homyguy Ze (3:36:54 AM): heheh
Homyguy Ze (3:36:58 AM): okay
DarthMeckju (3:37:05 AM): Hahaha
DarthMeckju (3:37:12 AM): Wowsers
Homyguy Ze (3:37:15 AM): I'll keep plugging away at this for a while, but I have to leave at 1PM tomorrow to go back home
DarthMeckju (3:37:46 AM): Heh, you just tackle whatever you can tonight
Homyguy Ze (3:37:55 AM): will do!
DarthMeckju (3:37:59 AM): Make it easier on yourself tommorrow (Sleep is for the STOOPED)
DarthMeckju (3:38:05 AM): And I am very STOOPED
Homyguy Ze (3:38:19 AM): ECKZAKTLEE
DarthMeckju (3:38:23 AM): Naw seriously, I wanted to get so much done tonight, that stupid, stupid paper...
DarthMeckju (3:38:29 AM): It totally wore me out creatively
Homyguy Ze (3:38:32 AM): ugh
Homyguy Ze (3:38:39 AM): I still haven't done that paper I need to do!
Homyguy Ze (3:38:44 AM): I'll whip something up before I go to bed
Homyguy Ze (3:38:48 AM): Redux = priority
Homyguy Ze (3:38:52 AM): I did enough school work today
Homyguy Ze (3:39:09 AM): oh yeah, before you go
DarthMeckju (3:39:13 AM): Ha ha, I'm luvin it
Homyguy Ze (3:39:20 AM): I had a neat idea for the overhead sanctuary shot
Homyguy Ze (3:39:37 AM): I want to have meteors falling towards it, but they curve away when they get close, ala MGS2
Homyguy Ze (3:40:00 AM): making sure the audience understands that the building is untouchable, they've gathered there for a reason
DarthMeckju (3:40:18 AM): Unlike the default dungeon, heh
Homyguy Ze (3:40:26 AM): heheheh, yeah
DarthMeckju (3:40:28 AM): Which, is the past
DarthMeckju (3:40:37 AM): The surviving parts, HMCs and the expansion, are the future
Homyguy Ze (3:40:50 AM): heheheh, awesome
Homyguy Ze (3:40:51 AM): and yes
Homyguy Ze (3:41:05 AM): that's a neat term, btw
Homyguy Ze (3:41:07 AM): default dungeon
Homyguy Ze (3:41:11 AM): it's almost metaphorical
DarthMeckju (3:41:31 AM): Heh, I dun made it up just t'night, yup
Homyguy Ze (3:41:32 AM): trapped in default 3dmm techniques and ideas
Homyguy Ze (3:41:47 AM): then again, I guess I could be accused of that
Homyguy Ze (3:41:50 AM): :-)
DarthMeckju (3:41:58 AM): Heh, yeah right!
Homyguy Ze (3:42:13 AM): heheh
Homyguy Ze (3:42:20 AM): I combine a lot of old and new I think
DarthMeckju (3:43:15 AM): If you say so, Aaron Jackson
DarthMeckju (3:43:23 AM): ....and no, that wasn't a paedophile reference....
Homyguy Ze (3:43:29 AM): hahahah
Homyguy Ze (3:43:53 AM): I consider it a high compliment
Homyguy Ze (3:44:39 AM): Redux is going to be like Pixar meets Lord of the Rings
DarthMeckju (3:45:04 AM): Ha, too true
DarthMeckju (3:45:10 AM): With a bit of TOHO thrown in there to boot
DarthMeckju (3:45:24 AM): (Teh GoDDZILLA GUYZES)
Homyguy Ze (3:45:33 AM): hahah, oh yeah, of course
Homyguy Ze (3:46:08 AM): okay, I've tied you up here long enough
Homyguy Ze (3:46:21 AM): meditate on the third act, cause that's where we need ideas
DarthMeckju (3:46:21 AM): Heh, nah I'm still replying on the board and stuff
Homyguy Ze (3:46:27 AM): heheheh
Homyguy Ze (3:47:35 AM): http://www.3dmm.com/bboard/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44117
Homyguy Ze (3:47:36 AM): ZING
DarthMeckju (3:48:51 AM): Heh heh
DarthMeckju (3:55:05 AM): (Wishes he would've tilted the camera a little towards the middle of the staircase, pointing downward more in scene 30)
Homyguy Ze (3:55:37 AM): (will keep this in mind when he redoes the shot tomorrow night) :-)
DarthMeckju (3:56:00 AM): Heh, for realsies?
DarthMeckju (3:56:49 AM): Welp, I gotta shove
DarthMeckju (3:56:51 AM): Later gator